Oral History - Thomas Nesbitt
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Title
Oral History - Thomas Nesbitt
Description
Clip from oral history interview with Thomas Nesbitt (SUNY Potsdam Director of Admissions), interviewed by Elizabeth Reardon on November 1, 2012.
Creator
Nesbitt, Thomas. Interviewee.
Reardon, Elizabeth. Interviewer.
Reardon, Elizabeth. Interviewer.
Publisher
SUNY Potsdam. College Archives & Special Collections.
Date
November 1, 2012
Contributor
The oral history was conducted as a part of SUNY Potsdam's Fall 2012 "Oral History" course (ANTH 364/HIST 450).
Language
eng.
Type
Sound
Oral History Item Type Metadata
Interviewer
Reardon, Elizabeth
Interviewee
Nesbitt, Thomas
Location
Raymond Hall, SUNY Potsdam Campus (Potsdam, New York)
Transcription
[Transcript of clip]
TM: It’s interesting to go back in the history of Potsdam and I think I’d start by telling a story. When I came on board in 2000, one of the first events we had was...we used to have a scholarship luncheon, so anyone who had won a scholarship, we would invite the families up to do a luncheon, we’d do it up on the eighth floor, and it was always nice, it was a nice little event. So it was the scholarship luncheon, and I’m doing my first speech pretty much, and I’m rockin’ and rollin’, and I’m having fun, talking about why I came to Potsdam, what the staff wanted to do, how we were gonna work with them, and make them feel like a community and how it was really nice to work with the president, and the director of PR was standing behind me. What I didn’t realize was that I referred to SUNY Potsdam as “Normal School,” I referred to it as “College,”, “Potsdam State,” I did them all, except “SUNY Potsdam.” At the end of the speech, there were pleasantries, there was a picture thing, and at the end of the speech, the director of PR came and he put his arm around me, and he choked me, and he’s like, “Don’t ever do that again.” And I said, “What?” He goes, “We’ve gotta have an identity.” And I’m like, “Well, what do you want the identity to be?” Truthfully, you walked around campus, in one room you would see ”Potsdam College,” in another you would see “Normal School,” in another room you’d see “State,” it was crazy around campus back then, and it was a struggle, what’s our name gonna be? John Fallon, who was president at the time, really really felt that, because he came from the Midwest, he wanted to be “Potsdam College.” That was kind of his vision, because all the great schools in the Midwest are “College.” So we turned around, and we were like, “Really?” and Scott really wanted “SUNY Potsdam,” and really, there was this whole rigmarole, and I think that for a year we debated it, we went round and round in circles, and I remember there was a picture in the Raquette, it was phenomenal, actually it was in the Watertown Daily Times. We had just decided on SUNY Potsdam, everyone was supposed to use the colors, you know, maroon, the gray, everything was set, we’d come up with the system of what color was what, and it was a year, so we had just decided this, and there was a picture in the Watertown Daily Times of our first Lacrosse game that year, and all the guys in the picture were wearing black pullover vests, like it was raining out, and they said “State” on the back of it! It was so funny to see everybody go mad about why we liked that, I mean people in athletics thought we should be “State.” So really, it took four or five years for everybody to come down on SUNY Potsdam, even John Fallon eventually came down on SUNY Potsdam, and since then, that has been kind of where we’ve been, but still, you speak to alumni all over, “Oh, you work at the Normal School,” you know, “Oh, you work at State.” That’s fine, you know, and we’re always going to have some of that, but I think our image, in the public, is SUNY Potsdam.
TM: It’s interesting to go back in the history of Potsdam and I think I’d start by telling a story. When I came on board in 2000, one of the first events we had was...we used to have a scholarship luncheon, so anyone who had won a scholarship, we would invite the families up to do a luncheon, we’d do it up on the eighth floor, and it was always nice, it was a nice little event. So it was the scholarship luncheon, and I’m doing my first speech pretty much, and I’m rockin’ and rollin’, and I’m having fun, talking about why I came to Potsdam, what the staff wanted to do, how we were gonna work with them, and make them feel like a community and how it was really nice to work with the president, and the director of PR was standing behind me. What I didn’t realize was that I referred to SUNY Potsdam as “Normal School,” I referred to it as “College,”, “Potsdam State,” I did them all, except “SUNY Potsdam.” At the end of the speech, there were pleasantries, there was a picture thing, and at the end of the speech, the director of PR came and he put his arm around me, and he choked me, and he’s like, “Don’t ever do that again.” And I said, “What?” He goes, “We’ve gotta have an identity.” And I’m like, “Well, what do you want the identity to be?” Truthfully, you walked around campus, in one room you would see ”Potsdam College,” in another you would see “Normal School,” in another room you’d see “State,” it was crazy around campus back then, and it was a struggle, what’s our name gonna be? John Fallon, who was president at the time, really really felt that, because he came from the Midwest, he wanted to be “Potsdam College.” That was kind of his vision, because all the great schools in the Midwest are “College.” So we turned around, and we were like, “Really?” and Scott really wanted “SUNY Potsdam,” and really, there was this whole rigmarole, and I think that for a year we debated it, we went round and round in circles, and I remember there was a picture in the Raquette, it was phenomenal, actually it was in the Watertown Daily Times. We had just decided on SUNY Potsdam, everyone was supposed to use the colors, you know, maroon, the gray, everything was set, we’d come up with the system of what color was what, and it was a year, so we had just decided this, and there was a picture in the Watertown Daily Times of our first Lacrosse game that year, and all the guys in the picture were wearing black pullover vests, like it was raining out, and they said “State” on the back of it! It was so funny to see everybody go mad about why we liked that, I mean people in athletics thought we should be “State.” So really, it took four or five years for everybody to come down on SUNY Potsdam, even John Fallon eventually came down on SUNY Potsdam, and since then, that has been kind of where we’ve been, but still, you speak to alumni all over, “Oh, you work at the Normal School,” you know, “Oh, you work at State.” That’s fine, you know, and we’re always going to have some of that, but I think our image, in the public, is SUNY Potsdam.
Duration
3 minutes : 29 seconds
Time Summary
00:00-1:50 Changes in SUNY Potsdam Admissions department
01:51-3:59 Student enrollment, international recruitment
04:00-06:25 Family and community connection to Potsdam
06:26-09:00 Development of Admissions department, role of Admissions department
09:01-11:36 Admissions department staff: changes, hiring policies, idea of “North Country First”
11:37-14:29 Outreach, where SUNY Potsdam’s students are from, diversity
14:30-23:26 Advertising, budget, website, social networking, mailings, print marketing
23:27-29:12 SUNY Potsdam’s image, deciding on name/identity for college
29:13-31:10 Admissions department plans for next five years
31:11-32:57 General Education program changes, advantages of a Liberal Arts education
32:58-35:39 Personal touch, school visits, campus changes, diversity
35:40-39:14 Campus security and safety, proactive, not reactive policies
39:15-42:12 Pride in campus dining, home cooked meals, two executive chefs, special needs diets, Open House
42:13-47:29 Need for mailings and Admission Book, live person monitoring website, chat systems, cutting-edge technology
47:30-51:14 “Test Optional” admissions policy, valuing whole person more than test score
51:15-53:00 Mount Evans Scholarship story, contribute to Potsdam, emphasis on student over test scores
53:01-56:00 Transfer students, outreach, visibility of Potsdam
56:01-58:28 Heart of the Admissions department
58:29-60:01 Student tour guides, how they connect with prospective students, student panel
60:02-65:15 Parents and Admissions, website designed for three demographics: parents, students and alumni
65:15-67:16 Parents and Admissions, invest in students, First Saturday, Pride nights, transition services
67:17-70:06 Admissions teaching and coaching on campus, at graduation
70:07-70:30 Closing remarks, signing consent forms
01:51-3:59 Student enrollment, international recruitment
04:00-06:25 Family and community connection to Potsdam
06:26-09:00 Development of Admissions department, role of Admissions department
09:01-11:36 Admissions department staff: changes, hiring policies, idea of “North Country First”
11:37-14:29 Outreach, where SUNY Potsdam’s students are from, diversity
14:30-23:26 Advertising, budget, website, social networking, mailings, print marketing
23:27-29:12 SUNY Potsdam’s image, deciding on name/identity for college
29:13-31:10 Admissions department plans for next five years
31:11-32:57 General Education program changes, advantages of a Liberal Arts education
32:58-35:39 Personal touch, school visits, campus changes, diversity
35:40-39:14 Campus security and safety, proactive, not reactive policies
39:15-42:12 Pride in campus dining, home cooked meals, two executive chefs, special needs diets, Open House
42:13-47:29 Need for mailings and Admission Book, live person monitoring website, chat systems, cutting-edge technology
47:30-51:14 “Test Optional” admissions policy, valuing whole person more than test score
51:15-53:00 Mount Evans Scholarship story, contribute to Potsdam, emphasis on student over test scores
53:01-56:00 Transfer students, outreach, visibility of Potsdam
56:01-58:28 Heart of the Admissions department
58:29-60:01 Student tour guides, how they connect with prospective students, student panel
60:02-65:15 Parents and Admissions, website designed for three demographics: parents, students and alumni
65:15-67:16 Parents and Admissions, invest in students, First Saturday, Pride nights, transition services
67:17-70:06 Admissions teaching and coaching on campus, at graduation
70:07-70:30 Closing remarks, signing consent forms
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Citation
Nesbitt, Thomas. Interviewee.
Reardon, Elizabeth. Interviewer., “Oral History - Thomas Nesbitt,” SUNY Potsdam College Archives & Special Collections Digital Collections, accessed December 24, 2024, https://omeka.potsdam.edu/items/show/26.